SEE, I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYBODY HAS SUCH A PROBLEM WITH FLIRTING. IT MEANS THE PERSON THINKS YOU’RE ATTRACTIVE, MAYBE TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT INSTEAD OF GETTING BUTTHURT OVER NOTHING?
Because it’s not flirting? It’s unwanted remarks over how men want women’s bodies. It leads to women being beaten, raped and murdered.
Catcalling is not flirting. It is an expression of male power in a patriarchal society.
gerund or present participle: flirting
1. behave as though attracted to or trying to attract someone, but for amusement rather than with serious intentions.
Look at that, you’re wrong and I’m right. Magistical. But I don’t want to end things just yet. i want to pick apart this whole thing:
“over how men want women’s bodies”
Which is where it’s complimentary, because they think you’re physically attractive.
"It’s unwanted remarks"
The whole point is, I don’t know that it’s unwanted until I make the move basically. I don’t know that it’s unwanted. Personally i would love to get cat called, it’d feel good even if I am the type to only date based on love.. But oh that’s right, guys gotta chase the girls. So girls don’t compliment me ever. So you know what fine, I’ll stop complimenting women completely, fine by me LMAO
"It leads to women being beaten, raped and murdered."
This is complete bullshit, correlation does not equal causation. If you actually think that rapists, rape BECAUSE they catcall… well then you need to re-evaluate how you see things. Rapists may catcall before they make a move, but it is completely irrelevant to said move. Some rapists literally do things like pick up lines, and do things I’m sure you WOULD consider flirting, before making a move on their victim.
" It is an expression of male power in a patriarchal society."
First off, it is NOT an expression of power. It is an expression of attraction.
Secondly the United States of America is not a patriarchy. A patriarchy is a regime. A legal system biased against women and for men, IN LAW. You can say sexism is a problem in our society, but that isn’t patriarchy. Instead of complaining so much, maybe you should realize Muslim women can’t wear pants without going to jail. And they get their vaginas mutilated to prevent sexual satisfaction.
Haven’t you ever heard of #1stworldproblems? It’s a meme, based on the bitching and moaning of people who aren’t even in that bad of situations compared to the majority of the rest of the world. Again I’m not saying there isn’t sex based issues in our society. But they’re so insignificant, they hardly interfere with your ability to enjoy your life compared to other people.
So in the words of a shitload of great people, appreciate what you have instead of acting like your life is so damned horrible.
Oh my god you’re so oblivious it would be funny if it weren’t horrifying.
If catcalling were flirting, it would not be shouted by multiple men in situations where the man has no chance of hearing a woman’s response. Driving past a woman and yelling at her does not mean you are flirting with her. It amuses the man but it frightens the woman.
Just because a man shouts something, doesn’t make it true. Men will shout ‘compliments’ to women and when they don’t reply they will then start shouting or threatening her. There have been news reports in the past few weeks of women being murdered because they didn’t reply to men’s catcalls. So yes, it does lead to women being murdered.
I hope you stop catcalling women. I hope you die alone forever because you care absolutely not a jot about women. Being shouted at or told ‘nice tits’ is not nice for the vast majority of women. Being a woman, I’ll tell you that for free.
And oh god this is like the MRA bingo jackpot. I should feel sorry for the Muslim women. Why? Do you understand the problems facing Muslim women? I don’t and I don’t pretend to, because I’m not a Muslim woman. What are you doing to combat the problems facing Muslim women? Are you campaigning for their right to wear hijab? Are you campaigning for their right to vote in countries where that is denied?
No, you’re doing fuck all and telling Western women that you don’t care about their lived experience of sexism but that you just want to flirt without any sort of backlash.
I’m sure some of my followers would also like to teach you about how completely ridiculous and MRA you sound. But seriously, I can assure you that literally everything you do in your life is repulsive to women.
I NEVER ONCE DENIED THAT SOME PEOPLE USE IT IN A HARASSING MANNER. THOUGH, IN THE CASE OF PEOPLE SHOUTING IT OUT OF THE CAR. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SHOUT OUT OF CARS, TOO, THEY DO THIS TO GUYS JUST AS MUCH. IN THOSE EXAMPLES THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO SCARE YOU. SHOUTING IS NOT CATCALLING. CAT CALLING IS WHISTLING AND SAYING SHIT LIKE “HEY BABY”.
EVEN IF THEY WERE TRYING TO SCARE YOU WITH CAT CALLING, IN THIS SITUATION IT IS HARMLESS. ITS JUST PEOPLE FUCKING WITH YOU, JERKING YOUR CHAIN. THEY ARE NO HARM TO YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A CAR AND DRIVING AWAY.
"I hope you stop catcalling women."
I DON’T CAT CALL, DOESN’T MEAN I THINK OTHER PEOPLE SHOULDN’T.
"I hope you die alone forever"
WOW, GREAT MORAL CHARACTER YOU MUST HAVE. WISHING LONELINESS UPON SOMEONE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THEY MAKE FLIRTATIOUS SOUNDS AT PEOPLE. BIT EXTREME THERE.
"Being shouted at or told ‘nice tits’ is not nice for the vast majority of women. Being a woman"
CATCALLING =/= SHOUTING
AND THAT’S YOUR PREROGATIVE, PERSONALLY BEING TOLD I HAVE A NICE DICK WOULD BE NICE. OR EVEN JUST SOMETHING LIKE NICE MUSCLES, NICE BUTT, NICE FACE, ETC. THEN AGAIN, WHY IS IT ANY LESS DEGRADING TO SAY YOUR FACE IS PRETTY? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD LOOKING BREASTS, AND A GOOD LOOKING FACE? MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN TO LOVE YOUR BODY PERIOD.
"What are you doing to combat the problems facing Muslim women?"
I AM TRANS-INTELLECTUAL. I BELIEVE THE SOLUTION TO GENDER EQUALITY IS PROGRESSING THE HUMAN SPECIES ALONG THE KARDASHEV SCALE. PART OF THAT INVOLVES THE DEATH OF RELIGION, SO ONE COULD ENGAGE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST RELIGION. OR THEY COULD FOCUS ON TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCING HUMANITY. AMONG OTHER POSSIBLE THINGS TO DO. LIKE YOU SAID, I COULD ALSO CAMPAIGN FOR THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE. THERE IS LOADS OF THINGS TO DO, POINT IS WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THAT AND NOT ON RIDICULOUS BULLSHIT.
"Are you campaigning for their right to wear hijab?"
THE PROBLEM ISN’T THAT WOMEN AREN’T ALLOWED TO WEAR HIJAB. NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM FROM WEARING HIJAB. THE PROBLEM IS THAT IN SOME PLACES THEY ARE FORCED TO WEAR HIJAB, AND THE BULLSHIT IDEA THAT SOME WOMEN WANT TO WEAR HIJAB.
YEAH SURE, THEY WANT TO WEAR HIJAB, TOTES… THAT TOTALLY ISN’T BECAUSE THEY WERE BRAINWASHED BY RELIGION, NOPE NOT AT ALL.
" Do you understand the problems facing Muslim women?"
YEAH, THE FACT THAT THEY’RE MUSLIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY SHOULD RISE AGAINST THAT POISONOUS DOGMA CALLED ISLAM AND RELIGION IN GENERAL.
"No, you’re doing fuck all and telling Western women that you don’t care about their lived experience of sexism"
ITS NOT THAT I DON’T CARE, IT’S THAT YOU’RE BLOWING IT OUT OF PROPORTION. WE ARE NOT IN A PATRIARCHY. IT’S NOT SYSTEMATIC LIKE RACISM. IF SOME DUDE SAYS WOMEN SHOULD GET IN THE KITCHEN, HE IS JUST VOICING AN OPINION. AN OPINION IS NO THREAT TO YOU. IGNORE DIPSHITS LIKE THAT, SIMPLE.
EVEN RACISM IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, IS A MORE SERIOUS ISSUE. RACIAL MINORITIES ARE ACTUALLY SYSTEMATICALLY OPPRESSED. SO EVEN OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN FIRST WORLD NATION, HAVE SHIT VASTLY WORSE THAN YOU.
"but that you just want to flirt without any sort of backlash."
LMAO LOOK AT THIS. YOU’RE BLUNTLY DEMONIZING FLIRTING ITSELF. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. OF COURSE THERE SHOULD BE NO BACKLASH, IF IM NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. I AINT HARASSING PEOPLE.
"I’m sure some of my followers would also like to teach you about how completely ridiculous and MRA you sound."
THIS IS INTERESTING. BECAUSE ALL IM VOICING IS OBJECTIVE FACTS AND LOGICAL ARGUMENTS AND YOU’RE TRYING TO PIN A MOVEMENT ON ME THAT YOU AND YOUR FOLLOWERS ARE BIASED AGAINST. FYI, ALL BIAS IS INVALID. YOU’RE BIASED, AND THAT IS WRONG AND RUINS YOUR CREDIBILITY.
"But seriously, I can assure you that literally everything you do in your life is repulsive to women."
YOU DON’T KNOW ME OR MY LIFE, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON I AM OR HOW I LIVE MY LIFE. ESPECIALLY NOT HOW I FLIRT. YOU JUST WANT TO DEMONIZE ME BECAUSE IM CHALLENGING YOUR POSITIONS. GO AHEAD AND BE QUICK TO JUDGE, YOU AINT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH OF A MATTER SO COINCIDENTALLY YOU DON’T MATTER.
Ahh capital letters, the calling card of the idiot.
I don’t need to demonise you, you’re doing that yourself by playing the victim when you won’t listen to actual women telling you that they find certain behaviours intimidating or threatening.
'Trans-intellectual'? Oh god now I've heard everything.
The fact you can’t tell the difference between saying ‘excuse me but you look very nice today’ and leaving it at that vs ‘nice tits’ shows how much of a sick mentality you have towards women.
Basically you’ve admitted that the only thing you’re doing to ‘help’ women is to rage against religion on the internet. It’s the weakest, more Reddit mentality and that is the reason why people disagree with you. Not because of some feminist doctrine but because you are generally just an unpleasant person.
And again, please answer why women are murdered for refusing the advances or attention men? Is it because men are told and believe that they deserve to have their affection reciprocated and they are whiny babies who can’t say no?
I’m going to go ahead and say yeah, that’s it.
"Ahh capital letters, the calling card of the idiot."
UNJUSTIFIED INSULTS, MAGNIFICENT. FYI I TYPE IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE OF THE PERSONA OF THIS BLOG. I DON’T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT HOMESTUCK OR CLASSPECT, BUT THE POINT TO THIS BLOG IS TO BE THE PERSONA OF A LORD OF LIGHT.
"they find certain behaviours intimidating or threatening."
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS INTIMIDATION AND THREATS ARE NOT A SUBJECTIVE MATTER. EITHER SOMETHING FITS THE DEFINITIONS OF SUCH OR THEY DON’T. IF SOMETHING HAS NOTHING THREATENING ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE NO REASON TO FEEL THREATENED. SOMEONE MAKING A SOUND AT YOU IN AND OF ITSELF, IS NOT THREATENING TO YOUR SAFETY. IF THEY DO IT HARASSINGLY, THAT’S A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THE COMIC ITSELF DOESN’T EVEN DEPICT HARASSMENT. IT DEPICTS THE HARMLESS NORMAL FORM OF CAT CALLING. WHERE SOME DUDES WHISTLE AT YOU BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU’RE SEXY.
ANYWAYS, YOU CAN’T JUST FIND ANY OLE THING INTIMIDATING AND THREATENING. WELL YOU CAN BUT, IF IM NOT ACTUALLY CROSSING ANY BOUNDARIES, THEN THAT’S YOUR PROBLEM. IF SOMEONE WERE TO FIND ME EATING A COOKIE THREATENING, THAT WOULD BE THEIR PROBLEM. MY EATING OF COOKIES, DOES NOT HURT THEM. UNLESS IM STEALING THEIR COOKIES OR HARASSING THEM TO EAT COOKIES TOO OR SOMETHING.
"The fact you can’t tell the difference between saying ‘excuse me but you look very nice today’ and leaving it at that vs ‘nice tits’ shows how much of a sick mentality you have towards women."
EXPLAIN, LOGICALLY, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FORMER QUOTE AND THE LATER QUOTE. EXPLAIN LOGICALLY, WHAT IS MORALLY WRONG ABOUT ME COMPLIMENTING YOUR BREASTS? IT’S NOT SICK OR WRONG TO BE SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO YOU AND TO WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU. DEAL WITH IT.
"And again, please answer why women are murdered for refusing the advances or attention men?"
A MAN CHEATS ON HIS WIFE, SHE CUTS HIS DICK OFF. AND IT’S MADE INTO A JOKE WITH THE MEDIA. NOW AS WRONG AS CHEATING IS, WHY DID SHE PHYSICALLY HARM HIM FOR NOT BEING LOYAL TO HER? FOR REFUSING TO APPRECIATE THEIR RELATIONSHIP? BUT THIS GOES EVEN FARTHER, BECAUSE CHEATING FULL WELL DIRECTLY CAUSES SUICIDES AND MASS MURDER. MAYBE IT’S JUST THE FACT THAT PEOPLE NEED LOVE IN A WORLD DEVOID OF IT, AND SO WHEN THEY’RE DENIED THAT LOVE THEY SNAP AND GO CRAZY. ESPECIALLY MORE SO WHEN THEIR LOVE IS BEING VIOLATED IN THE WORST WAYS POSSIBLE. IM NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD’VE BEEN RECIPROCATED, RATHER THERE IS A MUCH LARGER ISSUE HERE, WHERE THEY DO NEED LOVE IN SOME FORM. WHETHER THAT BE FROM FAMILY, FRIENDS, OR FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON WHICH HAS BEEN SKEWED TO BE PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE BY THE TOTAL MESS THAT IS SOCIAL INTERACTION IN TODAY’S WORLD.
BUT FUCK IT. HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU’RE LITERALLY TRYING TO PAINT ALL MEN AS PSYCHOTIC MURDERERS? THAT IS MISANDRIST AS FUCK. MOST PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF SEX, ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO COULDN’T EVEN HANDLE KILLING SOMEBODY IF IT MEANT LIFE OR DEATH FOR THEMSELVES. YOU HAVE ISSUES IF YOU’RE LITERALLY TRYING TO SAY MOST MEN ARE PSYCHOTIC MURDERERS. OR HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU’RE DISMISSING THOSE PSYCHOTIC MURDERERS AS WHINY BABIES WHO NEED TO SUCK IT UP? SHIT, YOU’VE MANAGED TO CROSS INTO BEING ALBEIST. THEY CLEARLY HAVE VERY SERIOUS ISSUES, LIKE MENTAL DISORDERS AND WHATNOT. WHICH MUST’VE BEEN CAUSED BY SOME SERIOUS SHIT PREVIOUSLY IN THEIR LIFE OR GENETIC DEFECT.
BUT NAH, THEY CAN SUCK THEIR SCHIZOPHRENIA AND SHIT UP, RIGHT?
"Basically you’ve admitted that the only thing you’re doing to ‘help’ women is to rage against religion on the internet."
NO? AGAIN ALL YOU’RE TRYING TO DO, IS ATTACK ME PERSONALLY. THIS IS CALLED AD HOMINEM, YOU ARE COMMITTING NOTHING BUT LOGICAL FALLACIES. INSTEAD OF LOGICALLY DECONSTRUCTING MY POINTS, YOU ARE ATTACKING ME DIRECTLY. WHICH SORRY BUT, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY ARGUMENTS THEMSELVES AND THEIR VALIDITY.
WHEREAS I ACTUALLY REFUTE EVERYTHING YOU SAY, FOR INSTANCE:
DEBATE =/= RAGE
I DEBATE RELIGION, ON AND OFF OF THE INTERNET. I WILL DEBATE YOU IN PERSON. FURTHER, I DO NOT JUST DEBATE. I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PROMOTING TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS OF HUMANITY. IF YOU HAVE DOUBTS AS TO HOW TRANS-INTELLECTUALISM CAN SOLVE SEXISM I’D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ATTEMPT AN ELABORATION. WHICH BRINGS ME TO…
“‘Trans-intellectual’? Oh god now I’ve heard everything.”
WHAT IS YOUR BEEF? THIS ISN’T A LOGICAL POINT. THIS ISN’T CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR OVERALL ARGUMENT AT ALL. IN FACT IT DAMAGES IT. YOU’RE JUDGING SOMETHING YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT, DISMISSING IT WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHAT IT IS ABOUT. TRANS-INTELLECTUALISM WAS STARTED BY THE ICONIC GREYDON SQUARE, BLACK ATHEIST RAPPER SCIENTIST AND FOUNDER OF #GU, A COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO EDUCATING THE MASSES WITH CREATIVITY:
To positively contribute to humanity’s ascent towards The Kardashev Scale’s “Type 1”. And even beyond…
What is Trans-Intellectualism?
Trans-Intellectualism is the intellectual motivation behind the pursuit of something called Type 1 status.
A trans-intellectual values intelligence in either a professional or personal capacity in active pursuit of upward mobility across the Kardashev Scale.
Drawing from the core principles of intellectualism, humanism, and trans-humanism, the agenda of the trans-intellectual, would be that of scientific and technological advancement for the purpose of obtaining a planetary, solar, galactic, and possibly even cosmic status.
How we achieve Type 1, 2, 3, or beyond is constantly being discussed and debated by those most passionate about it, the trans-intellectuals.
The end of the journey to Type 1 is simply the beginning of the journey to Type 2. Let’s figure out a way to take this journey together, and one day maybe call ourselves truly cosmic.”
Your going to remain unloved and unwanted and you’re going to be laughed at on national TV. Goodbye.